Thread Poop-litical 2024 and beyond thread

I'm sure blocking a road in New Mexico will end the war in Gaza.
I'll see what I can do, but I'm not super interested in pursuing their tankie agenda (which is, "The USA & its military are directly supporting genocide. Making life harder for Kirtland, combine with all the other actions everywhere, puts pressure on the government to change policy. In the longer run, many of us want revolution & communism/socialism.")
 
dude, its not even remotely proportional, thats the problem.

Hamas has killed ~1500 israelis, which is terrible. Israel has responded disproportionally and killed ~35000 Palestinians.

Of those 35000, that included 14,000 CHILDREN, 97 journalists and 224 humanitarian aid workers

Hamas are a bunch of assholes, but the evil they have done far pales in comparison to the unequivocal slaughter of civilians the israeli's have carried out.
Disproportionate response is a relatively common military strategy. The point isn't who is more right the point is winning. The Palestinians have been warned ad nauseam, and they know first hand that Israel is motivated, has a highly proficient military, and is fully equipped fighting force. Hell they have been attacked in 3 full scale wars with nation states since the 1960s and won them easily despite being a much smaller country.

Hamas fucked around and found out. I'm not crying a river over it.
 
Disproportionate response is a relatively common military strategy. The point isn't who is more right the point is winning. The Palestinians have been warned ad nauseam, and they know first hand that Israel is motivated, has a highly proficient military, and is fully equipped fighting force. Hell they have been attacked in 3 full scale wars with nation states since the 1960s and won them easily despite being a much smaller country.

Hamas fucked around and found out. I'm not crying a river over it.
They aren't killing Hamas. That's the point. Try to keep up.
 
They aren't killing Hamas. That's the point. Try to keep up.
Idk 51% of Palestinians prefer Hamas to the other political options. It's fairly inseparable from anything related to the Palestinians.
 
Actually, you can buy them at stationary stores, they're like an agenda book but they have a star of david on the front.

Real handy for keeping on top of stuff like buying clay for making dreidals, keeping track of who's hosting what party during the 12 crazy nights, kosher food you gotta pick up for the potluck, and all that other stuff. Jewish conspiracies are hard unless you stay organized, and a zionist agenda helps greatly.
 
Idk 51% of Palestinians prefer Hamas to the other political options. It's fairly inseparable from anything related to the Palestinians.
If I support our military, that doesn't make me a member of the military. Also, they're fucking killing kids in droves dude.
 
If I support our military, that doesn't make me a member of the military. Also, they're fucking killing kids in droves dude.
People die in wars. You think there were no civilian deaths in WW2? Caused by the "good" side?
 
When October 6th happened I said when Isreal is done there will no longer be a Gaza and sadly it looks like that is going to come true. I think the Hamas / Iran plan was Isreal will respond the way they have and the world will rally against Isreal, cut them off financially, and possibly even intervene militarily to stop Isreal. Governments have vocally started to speak out against Isreal's handling of the war but they clearly aren't going to be shut off financially or militarily. And Hamas clearly doesn't care about saving the Palestinian civilians or else they would have released the hostages by now. This isn't going to end now until what's left of Hamas is completely destroyed.
 
You apparently dont understand what happens in a "war". How many civilians do you think are dying in Ukraine? You can try to stay on military targets but if the enemy hides in the population and the population protects them they are actively participating in the war. I don't see the Palestinians expelling Hamas or cooperating with the Israelis to get rid of them. There isn't much left as an option except to level Gaza.
 
When October 6th happened I said when Isreal is done there will no longer be a Gaza and sadly it looks like that is going to come true. I think the Hamas / Iran plan was Isreal will respond the way they have and the world will rally against Isreal, cut them off financially, and possibly even intervene militarily to stop Isreal. Governments have vocally started to speak out against Isreal's handling of the war but they clearly aren't going to be shut off financially or militarily. And Hamas clearly doesn't care about saving the Palestinian civilians or else they would have released the hostages by now. This isn't going to end now until what's left of Hamas is completely destroyed.
Ur an idiot if you think this would all be over if Hamas would just release the hostages. Israel has already said that its goal is the destruction of Hamas, which is as ephemeral as our "war on terror". As long as they say there are Hamas, they will keep going.
 
You apparently dont understand what happens in a "war". How many civilians do you think are dying in Ukraine? You can try to stay on military targets but if the enemy hides in the population and the population protects them they are actively participating in the war. I don't see the Palestinians expelling Hamas or cooperating with the Israelis to get rid of them. There isn't much left as an option except to level Gaza.
Dumbest comparison in a bit.
Both Russia and Israel are actively targeting non military targets. Nothing to do with who is hiding where
 
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